Well, if I only suspected that he was not totally behind a solution for the PACT problem; I have no doubt now that he is only half heartedly supporting us.

I ask him to support all the PACT bills. He reminded me that the senate bill had passed and was in the house. I explained that the house had passed 3 bills that were now in the senate for action. I ask him to especially support HB228 as it would be a lasting solution. He said that he did not think they could get away with telling the colleges and universities how much they could charge. I told him that the state had gotten away with telling them how much they could charge out of state students within a 50 mile radius of the schools so I did not think it is a problem to tell them to cap tuition for some of our own Alabama citizens whose parents and grand parents had participated in a State program to prepay tuition. He kept repeating that we could not tell then what to charge even after I had given him this fact. He said we do not know how much it cost to run the schools. I reminded him that they got money every year in the states budget and they were
state chartered and they need to be good citizens and help with the problem.  He repeated again his opposition to telling them what they could charge not knowing how much it would hurt them, I started to giving him the information about them being helped by the PACT  and the yearly amount that would be the maximum that Alabama and Auburn would lose to the cap. He interrupted me and said that he would only vote for the bill without the cap. I reminded him that without the cap the funds would not last to the end of the program. He told me they would last as far as they went and told me again that he would not vote for the Cap and said he did not know where they were getting the 260 million dollars anyway. I told he exactly where the funds were coming from. He said he knew that it was coming from the interest from the trust fund but we were already in proration. I told him that these funds were not going to affect proration either way and started to give
him some more facts and he blurted out “thank you for calling” and hung up on me.