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Patti has started sending thank you emails to all of the news reporters that are covering the PACT issues and asking that they join our forum and assist in bringing the newest information with them to this forum - and discussing their views on the PACT issues.

Please consider doing the same - what an opportunity to get the newest information than to get the media involved. Also can't hurt asking that they include information on site - to help insure we are gathering the other 48,000 people involved here! What a voice we could accumulate to be - great minds working together are very powerfurl as well!

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Thanks for posting this! I love the ideas being created from this - keep it up!

Patti Lambert
(256) 227-9180

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Interesting national radio news article on NPR News "All Things Considered" about PACT programs across the country...

With interviews by Dr. Huckaby and Senator Roger Bedford

NPR Radio News about PACT funds

then click Listen Now when you are on the NPR website

Link also on our Latest News tab

Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'

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Great Publicity!!
Montgomery's NBC station, Channel 12, gave us great props last night. Following an interview with Dr. Huckaby, on the 10 o'clock news, they posted  our meeting at the church to let people know so they could attend before the Borad's meeting.

Now if we can just get the local print reporters interested again!  Maybe now that the legislative session is over they will time to explore this issue in greater detail.

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Thank you all for the updates and being there today. I know there are a lot of us who could not be there. I checked this site several times today(Wed.) for information...........Oh, by the way, on the home page change from Hubbard to Hubbert!!I first thought it was going to be someone(Mike) from  Montgomery....Good night!

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...Purchasers of the PACT Program acted
in good faith when they gave the state
their money. The state must also act
toward them in good faith by keeping
its end of the bargain though without
doing so at the expense of other
students and parents.
If the problem had a simple solution
costing very little money, it would have
already been fixed. What is needed
now is information plus the will to deal
with this issue. If the Legislature does
not fix it, eventually, the courts will tell
them how and require them to do so.
– By Dr. Paul Hubbert

This is the ending two paragraphs from the AEA Newsletter May 18, 2009. speaking with Dr. Hubbert personally, I think he feels strongly that PACT should be made whole, but not at the expect of lower education in Alabama.

Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'

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Did anyone see the Channel 19 News at 10:00 last night where someone was asking someone else about PACT? I only saw the promo and missed the story. I don't know who the people were.

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http://blog.al.com:80/birmingham-news-c … honor.html

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http://www.al.com/news/huntsvilletimes/ … amp;coll=1

Article concerning Marc Reynolds' review of PACT.

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We are parents of two children and have two PACT contracts purchased in 1994 & 1996.  We read the article regarding the lack of money to save PACT.  This is very alarming and we need to take a stand now.  If there is something we can do, please advise.  This is something that we are going to have to take a stand on.

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thrashermom wrote:

http://www.al.com/news/huntsvilletimes/ … amp;coll=1

Article concerning Marc Reynolds' review of PACT.

HEARTBREAKING!!!!!!  Makes me sick at my stomach as well.

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I will say again, if you live in MADISON COUNTY, get in touch with me, Donna Peacher at 852-7817 or email me at dhpeacher@gmail.com.  We are having our first meeting at the Huntsville Public Library, July 11 (Saturday) at 2:00 pm.  Or, just show up.

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Following is my letter to the editor - Huntsville Times.  Feel free to use it to send to other papers if you agree.

"Donna Peacher to
letters@htimes.com, cc: Bob.lowry@htimes.com

Well, well.  Here we are again, back where we started.  I wonder how much money was taken out of our PACT funds to pay RSA to tell us we had a problem which we already knew we had?  Was the audit a convenient delaying tactic which allowed the house and senate to get off the hook for not accomplishing anything during the last session?   All those fantastic words of support just oozed from the mouths of the politicians.  I'm not sure any of them actually meant what they were saying.  Pardon me for being somewhat cynical.

As Mr.J. M. Turner, in a letter to the editor a while back said, his family will refuse to vote for any incumbent elected official in 2010 or 2012 and that new people couldn't do any worse than the "bunch of greedy, mendacious scumbags who now slink around on Goat Hill".  I tend to agree with him.  I'd like to get him and anyone else who is interested into our Madison County PACT group which will meet on July 11, at 2:00 pm at the Huntsville Library auditorium. (I'm in the phone book).

For you politicians out there, we trusted the State of Alabama.  We will never trust again unless you do your job.  Do what's right.  But, be aware that we WILL organize Madison County and make sure YOU pay the price.  REMEMBER, WE HAVE THE POWER OF THE VOTE.

Donna H. Peacher"

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Is only one page to  Bob Lowery's article or is there more? When I click on page 2 or Next I get nothing but a blank page. 

If someone has the full story,  can they please paste it into the site
Thanks

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PACT unlikely to survive without 'a ton of money'
MONTGOMERY, AL -- The deputy director of the Retirement Systems of Alabama said Wednesday there's little chance of saving the state Prepaid Tuition Program without a massive infusion of state money.

"It's going to take a ton of money to fill a very big hole," said Marc Reynolds.

State Treasurer Kay Ivey, chair of the PACT Board, agreed Wednesday that the program needs more money but is awaiting a final report from the RSA.

During a stop in Huntsville to announce her Republican gubernatorial candidacy, Ivey said the answer to repairing the PACT program is the stabilization of the stock market.

"That's the way the PACT trust fund operates," she added.

 
But Reynolds said it's not likely the program can be saved by growth in the markets. For the program to gain back the 50 percent it lost in the market, he said the markets would have to grow by 100 percent.

"For that to happen, the stock market would have to hit 20,000," he said. "Is that a realistic assumption? I don't think so."

Although the stock market has recovered somewhat, Reynolds said it's nowhere near enough to help the PACT program get back on track.

An examination of the program by RSA has shown that the PACT deficit is actually larger than the $306 million actuarial deficit reported at the end of fiscal 2008, although Reynolds did not say how much.

With more than two-thirds of the PACT Trust Fund invested in stocks, it lost about half its value from December 2007 to the end of January 2009, a decline from $793 million to $463 million.

RSA was commissioned by the PACT Board on May 20 to conduct an independent actuarial study of the fund. An official report is expected to be delivered to Gov. Bob Riley and the Legislature in July or August.

Reynolds said the PACT Board could save up to $3 million a year by using RSA to manage the fund, but he added that wouldn't make a substantial difference.

PACT also has to deal with rising tuition rates.

The only way to keep the program afloat, he said, would be to substantially increase revenue for it, possibly through a tax increase, and to persuade colleges and universities to hold the line on tuition increases, at least temporarily.

"But you can look at what's happened so far this summer with (the) double-digit increase" in tuition, he said. "We can't get expenses down. There's no flexibility in changing or managing tuition."

Earlier, Alabama State University, Troy University and the two-year community college system froze tuition. But most PACT students are enrolled at Auburn University and the University of Alabama, and both have just increased tuition. Last week, Alabama approved a 9.4 percent increase and Auburn a 5.7 percent increase.

Reynolds said he doesn't know whether the state, in these harsh economic times, can afford to bail out the PACT program.

In its report to Riley and the Legislature, RSA will not recommend any source of money for the program.

"I guess you could have a beer tax, a cigarette tax, a bingo tax, but anything is just going to suck it off the top of the General Fund," Reynolds said.

Patti Lambert, a Huntsville Realtor who heads the Save Alabama PACT group, said Wednesday she was "sick to my stomach" over Reynolds' comments.

State leaders "always seem to find money for what they want," she said.
"I hope there are going to be people running for office that will take up our cause."

Lambert runs the Web site Save Alabama PACT and has 1,477 members on her Facebook page devoted to the PACT. She owns six PACT plans and had hoped to buy two more because she has eight grandchildren.

"I'm disappointed," Lambert said. "I still feel very strongly that it's the responsibility of the state of Alabama and whoever it touches, and it's touched too many people."

There are roughly 48,000 contract holders in the program.

The board's actuary, Robert Crompton of Atlanta, said at a May meeting that the PACT fund has enough money to fully pay tuition this fall and next spring.

He said the fund would not run out of money until March 2014.

"My biggest fear is the Legislature will say 'Oh my God, there's nothing we can do,' " Lambert said. "We just need a stop-gap until we find a way to fund it."

During the regular legislative session this spring, lawmakers considered but did not pass a proposed constitutional amendment that would have taken $150 million from the state's oil and gas fund to help pay tuition. But the bill would have guaranteed tuition payments only for those who entered the program before 1995 -- when it was guaranteed by the state.

Neither Ricky Jones, an Andalusia businessman who is vice-chairman of the PACT Board, nor Lt. Gov. Jim Folsom, a board member, returned a call from The Times.

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Lt Gov. Jim Folsom issued the following letter to Save Alabama PACT this morning:

June 26, 2009

Statement from Lt. Governor Jim Folsom, Jr.

I want to begin by repeating some information that I feel has not been made clear to the thousands of families in the PACT program.  In these difficult times when we are dealing with such an emotional issue, it is vital that all of us focus on the facts – and only the facts.   

According to PACT’s own actuary, the current assets available at this time are sufficient to meet all PACT’s obligations into 2015.

Yesterday, it was reported – yet again - that the PACT program has serious financial difficulties.  You and I are well aware of that fact and this information was not news to us.  We have known for months that the program is facing difficulty and many of us have been diligently working to find a solution.

As you know, the PACT board worked with legislative leaders to draft a resolution that would move this process forward.   That resolution calls for RSA to evaluate the program and return recommendations to the legislature. We expect a report from RSA this summer report and any subsequent recommendations from RSA will be evaluated and dealt with in the Legislative session that begins in January.

Any debate about the future of the program before we see RSA’s final report is premature. We have taken very direct steps towards a resolution and the program has the funds to meet it’s obligations until we can identify our actual options.

As a PACT parent, I understand that some have a mounting frustration, but I want you to know that I remain committed to find a resolution which assures all current enrollees that the terms of their contracts will be adhered to.

Let me restate my commitment to do everything I can to assure that those currently enrolled in the P.A.C.T. program that have been, and are,  holding up their end of the agreement will receive the full benefits they subscribed to. 


Please thank Folsom for his committment to this program, and continued support.