Topic: Rep Bentley ALMOST gets it right.

Bentley is proposing a new bill - HB775 - which would borrow from the AL Trust Fund to shore up any deficits in PACT. This is almost what we need.

The problem is the concept of borrowing. It requires funds to later be returned. If PACT had any potential future revenue to repay the Trust then no actuarial deficit would exist in the first place. As is, his bill is a huge waste of time. But, with one small change, it would be perfect. Simply replace the word "borrow" w/ the word "take".

While the bill w/ tuition caps would solve the PACT problem, it is heavily opposed and in serious jeopardy of not passing. Little's version of the bill would also move the $236M to PACT, which is not quite enough, but could then be subsidized w/ Bentley's proposed bill if the word "borrow" were to be changed. This would result in total payments of around $200M or so from the Trust Fund over the next 15 or 20 years. That's peanuts to this $3.3B Trust that has averaged growing by $200M/yr.

If Bentley wants to propose a constitutional amendment, do this: 1) Guarantee all PACT tuition payments; 2) move the existing PACT funds including the $236M (if we get it) to the ATF; 3) let the ATF board manage the funds as deemed appropriate; and 4) pay any deficits from the ATF.

Or don't do it. The courts will later mandate it anyway, and the ATF is the state's only source of savings, and continues to grow w/ future oil and gas royalties pouring in.

Re: Rep Bentley ALMOST gets it right.

The big thing in his bill is it would have to be voted on by the people of alabama, and with all the garbage that both Alabama and Auburn put out in the past few weeks, it would not pass.  THEN we are back to square one,and out of time.

Re: Rep Bentley ALMOST gets it right.

Did HB775 get modified yesterday.The news report said "The state government would cover any shortfall." Is this true? If so this is fantastic.

Yes, it would have to be voted on, but there's no reason for our Universities to oppose this, and in fact they should endorse it because it guarantees the students will be coming and that they would receiv full tuition.

Re: Rep Bentley ALMOST gets it right.

KBinHoover wrote:

Did HB775 get modified yesterday.The news report said "The state government would cover any shortfall." Is this true? If so this is fantastic.

Yes, it would have to be voted on, but there's no reason for our Universities to oppose this, and in fact they should endorse it because it guarantees the students will be coming and that they would receiv full tuition.

As long as they would put out the word with vigor like they did this past week, then maybe, but I still think it is a crap shoot.   They need to have a BIG PLAN B if it does not pass.

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Plan B was, is, and will be our court system. The legislators know that expensive lawsuits are coming if they don't get this done NOW. And, I suspect that our University and AEA leaders will support any proposal w/out caps (like HB775) and attempt to help get votes from non-PACT owners from their various support groups.

Re: Rep Bentley ALMOST gets it right.

KBinHoover wrote:

Plan B was, is, and will be our court system. The legislators know that expensive lawsuits are coming if they don't get this done NOW. And, I suspect that our University and AEA leaders will support any proposal w/out caps (like HB775) and attempt to help get votes from non-PACT owners from their various support groups.


I agree KB, that will be our action if it does not pass, we will be out of time by then.

Last edited by lrterry (04-02-2010 8:16:30 am)

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i am confused at this point...as to the current status.. as this bill hasnt passed should we work under the assumption that payments will stop as of next year?  son is about to go to college this fall and we are trying to figure out what monies will be available from his pact contract..should we assume only this year?  we bought our contract when it first came out (ie the guaranteed language) and transferred it to our 2nd son when it was not needed for the oldest.  If he uses about 5K of it this year does that mean his refund next year would be about 1K?? contract cost 6K in 1990.
there is one school he really wants to go to but we would need to know the pact funds would continue over the 4 years....

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Good question parent.  Fall 2011 is what the PACT admins. say would be the time frame for refunds.

If you have facebook, here is a good dicussion on that subject.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=6 … opic=15337